clean up the loot pool of the lvl 40 chest

Guys, we should probably take it down a notch. We’re a small community and reliant upon one another to keep our favorite game running. We can’t afford to be at each other’s throats over something so trivial.

Jeinx, are you confident in that? Is it applicable to both Quest rewards and the Treasure Camps? I recall being involved in a similar discussion with Andy where he mentioned that the loot tables can be difficult to decipher even for the people who have access. I could swear I’ve gotten Greens from More Mad Medians before, but that could be my memory playing tricks on me. I’ll check after the Halloween event or after I get my Sword (hopefully, 17,500 stocked).

 

Well then that would be the source of this discussion then. Treasure Camps should, I would argue, not drop greens on Legendary quests. I would circle back to the notion that they should instead drop capital city decorations, decent rare gear, gold or maybe even EP instead. Keep the nominal chance at Legendaries and Epics, but raise the bar a smidge so it feels more rewarding.

I reiterate that there are six, going on seven Civs. I don’t believe that my suggestion would cause substantial harm to the core loop of the game. I’m particularly attracted to the notion of Capital decorations. Decorating all six cities without a way to purchase EP feels frustratingly difficult and grindy. I would be far more excited to open a box of Celt bushes over some vendor trash.

Just my personal take, of course. Devs are gonna do what devs are gonna do.

 

While I dont think lvl 40 chest should be changed, perhaps lower level gear should get an increased drop rate?

I'd argue more customization being possible during the leveling process would severely improve the QOL of any newer players and thus benefit the retention of said players.

By that I mean more chance for rare, or epic if available in that levels loot pool, less chance for broken stuff, common and uncommon, and perhaps slightly increase the amount of resources dropped, the latter only for lvl 1-20 chests.

I'm aware people only use the stuff while leveling up and thus since a lot of folks are spending time doing endgame stuff, not much of said gear is dropped.

But if you check the gm you will find very little <40 gear, only specific items.

I spent 56k just now at moes buying lvl 10 chests, that is 56 k /100 + whatever I get for selling all the junk I got each time, then repurchasing.

All I wanted was a double stitched chiton, rare, did not get it.

Doesn't seem right that a low lvl person cant buy or find at least a sizeable portion of rare-epic stuff while leveling up.

It gets better the higher up you go but early level chests are a joke for sure ^^

 

This is a fascinating perspective. The gear curve into 40 is seriously messed up, but I’d always brushed it off personally. Neat thought.

 

I can't agree that low level gear is hard to find unless you are talking about epic gear less than level 9 and legendary gear less than level 40. The various game shops have lots of it for sale; don't we all have a Windy's Wild Widgets store in our towns with rare lvl 5 gear?

Yes, I'd agree there isn't much on the GM for sale but that is most likely because having only 10 GM slots we all want to make best use of these 10 slots and sell our more valuable items & not low level/value gear.
So of course the vendor gets these items.

It is difficult to know exactly what the original game developers intended with regard to timescale for a players progression from level 1 to level 40 but I'd suggest they never designed the game expecting players to reach level 40 in a week or two as seems to be quite normal now.

Although most of us dismiss the green Uncommon gear as just stuff for the vendor, there does have to be some reason why from the start the developers designed and introduced into the game some 450 items of Uncommon gear including 269 that you can craft yourself at all levels from 2 to 40.

I think that the original intention was that we players enjoyed the leveling process, enjoyed the numerous low level quests (using our low lvl gear) and were expected to be content using mostly Uncommon gear, much of which we'd craft & or trade. We were expected to be happy if we occasionally found a rare gear item & over the moon / delirious if we ever found an epic gear item

Now everyone wants all their civs at Lvl 40 in week 1 and all gear for all units to be legendary by week 2.

 

Personally I found gearing up predominantly through PvE levelling on one civ a little daunting and was basically broke come 40 from splurging on stuff that was still crap and quite cheap. This time round I'm playing PvP and on all 6 civs at once and getting any currency or level appropriate gear isn't a problem (I do realise being able to transfer good but not suitable drops between civs is a factor, but not to the point where I can give away half my gold and still have over half a million before getting anything to 40).

You don't have to go nuts, but I do think that PvE questing pre-40/pre elite probably could do with rewards buffs. The speeding up of xp gains across the board does help with getting to 40! and running through quests below your level now, sure, but attempting something your level now, pre-40, is worse relatively speaking, as you've dinged several more times in the same amount of games/chances for good drops.

Levelling off pvp holds your hand with level scaled drops and 3 currency rewards at a minimum comparatively. You just need to like PvP.

 

Hello everyone,,
And please don't be sarcastic, there is a reason of why the loot during endgame feels frustrating.

Not all items are useful nor all items should be useful , but there should be a balance between trash and good items for endgame , I still remember how this specific problem made a lot of players drop out the game when it launched on steam and even earlier after beta. AOEO was ahead of its time by including the loot mechanics in a genre that usually don't have them and for the same reason it was unavoidable that the loot had some problems in the percentages the rarity and type of items that droops for each activity. No one is saying to remove the RNG, we just want a less frustrating experience and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

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