Ok so I know this is somewhat controversial. So I'll try and lay it out with pros and cons. Back in the day when Microsoft was still running the game they introduced consumables and nurfed the crap out of a lot of stuff to "encourage" players to buy Empire Points in order to buy consumables so they could keep up with where they used to be before. As I recall this is when they removed "Line of Site" from the Bows and Arrows. I guess they wanted you go buy spy glasses and spam them in front of your army. The point is that it had nothing to do with balancing the game, it was just a marketing ploy. So now that that is no longer an issue it would be awesome to get the LOS restored to at least some of these items.
For example the "http://aoedb.net/items/2234/35" Arduinna's Hunting Bow. This was once the best LOS item you could get. The recipe even dropped for it so they were expensive because they required philosopher stones to make but they were also readily available. After microsoft nurfed all the LOS a great many of them had been created before the nurf and they maintained their LOS even though no new ones could be made with the LOS bonus. In the end there were so many around that pretty much everyone who wanted them could get them up until the game was shut down.
LOS is obviously pretty important. You can't shoot what you can't see. It seems to me at least that its a little silly to have an archer who can shoot much farther than he can see. Baring a physical object blocking your patch an archer should be able to see much farther than they can shoot. Being an archer in RL I can testify that in an open field there is no possibility of not being able to see as far as I can shoot. Obviously the original creators agreed with this b/c they included a LOS bonsus usually equal or almost equal to the range bonus of at least several of the bows and arrows.
The point is that there was no balance reason to remove the LOS bonus and it would be great if we could get that back on things like the Arduinna's bow, pharaoh arrow, and other stuff like that.
Some people will argue fervently against this. I would wager that in almost every case these are people who managed to get their hands on some of these items after the relaunch but before they were nurfed to remove the LOS again. Obviously they have a significant advantage in mission running and simply enjoying the game over people who don't have and at present can never get these items. On the one hand they don't want an item that they consider extremely valuable to become common place as they feel it diminishes the value. On the other hand they are praised a loved by people they co-op with for their ability to light up the map and make it possible to actually see what you are trying to look at.
Neither of these arguments should have any bearing on returning LOS items to the game. First its just simply unfair that some players have items. Especially these incredibly desired items that somehow kept their LOS bonus while the ability to get it now its completely denied to all other players. Second whether they found it in a loot drop or paid 100k coin for it they have been able to use it now for weeks or months while everyone playing since couldn't get it no matter what they would be willing to pay. The items have paid for themselves in full. Besides that its not like they could unequipped it and sell it. Once its equipped its monetary value is equal to what the store will give you. So 500c or less.
In the end there is no game balance reason not to have archers be able to see what they are shooting at. There is also no legitimate justification for player who have these items to get bent out of shape over others being able to get what they already have. So please return these items and undo yet another huge Microsoft grief.
(P.s) Thanks a TON for bringing the game back
For example the "http://aoedb.net/items/2234/35" Arduinna's Hunting Bow. This was once the best LOS item you could get. The recipe even dropped for it so they were expensive because they required philosopher stones to make but they were also readily available. After microsoft nurfed all the LOS a great many of them had been created before the nurf and they maintained their LOS even though no new ones could be made with the LOS bonus. In the end there were so many around that pretty much everyone who wanted them could get them up until the game was shut down.
LOS is obviously pretty important. You can't shoot what you can't see. It seems to me at least that its a little silly to have an archer who can shoot much farther than he can see. Baring a physical object blocking your patch an archer should be able to see much farther than they can shoot. Being an archer in RL I can testify that in an open field there is no possibility of not being able to see as far as I can shoot. Obviously the original creators agreed with this b/c they included a LOS bonsus usually equal or almost equal to the range bonus of at least several of the bows and arrows.
The point is that there was no balance reason to remove the LOS bonus and it would be great if we could get that back on things like the Arduinna's bow, pharaoh arrow, and other stuff like that.
Some people will argue fervently against this. I would wager that in almost every case these are people who managed to get their hands on some of these items after the relaunch but before they were nurfed to remove the LOS again. Obviously they have a significant advantage in mission running and simply enjoying the game over people who don't have and at present can never get these items. On the one hand they don't want an item that they consider extremely valuable to become common place as they feel it diminishes the value. On the other hand they are praised a loved by people they co-op with for their ability to light up the map and make it possible to actually see what you are trying to look at.
Neither of these arguments should have any bearing on returning LOS items to the game. First its just simply unfair that some players have items. Especially these incredibly desired items that somehow kept their LOS bonus while the ability to get it now its completely denied to all other players. Second whether they found it in a loot drop or paid 100k coin for it they have been able to use it now for weeks or months while everyone playing since couldn't get it no matter what they would be willing to pay. The items have paid for themselves in full. Besides that its not like they could unequipped it and sell it. Once its equipped its monetary value is equal to what the store will give you. So 500c or less.
In the end there is no game balance reason not to have archers be able to see what they are shooting at. There is also no legitimate justification for player who have these items to get bent out of shape over others being able to get what they already have. So please return these items and undo yet another huge Microsoft grief.
(P.s) Thanks a TON for bringing the game back
