Change of statistics in staffs (damage)

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    Hello, I would like to suggest that they remove the damage to the staffs and change it for other bonuses such as convert siege, infantry, distance unit or cavalry since there are few who have these benefits so it would be more varied a staff as well could be Vision or healing bonus.
     
    #1 Chris23g, May 29, 2019 at 6:51 PM
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    good idea!
     
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    I agree. It would be nice if all the staffs with damage had it swapped for another appropriate stat for the staff type.
     
    #3 Ardeshir, May 30, 2019 at 2:18 PM
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    Don't nerf my druids!!! :p
     
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    Oh, do druids actually get utilized for attacking? I knew they were about the only priest unit that could attack, but I wouldn't risk putting the healing on the front line myself lol
     
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    Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but Celt druids do not benefit by having a damage staff.
    Test it yourself to confirm - launch a quest with no staff equipped & note down the dps for druid then restart quest with a damage staff equipped & check again dps. You will see it doesn't change.
     
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    thanks for that
     
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    So damage truly is useless on staffs outside of fighting treasure guardians and huntables lol

    Should be replaced with seige conversion rate or conversion range :D
     
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    Exactly or that the damage increases the conversion so it would make more sense
     
    #9 Chris23g, Jun 3, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    It's not useless. It allows a priest to damage a wolf for example and kill it before it kills him. Underwhelming, sure.
     
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    Exactly only serves to attack game animals but it is also not at age 3 which is almost when the priests are usually taken out to kill wolves or there are no other troops to help them and attack the animals
     
    #11 Chris23g, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    Umm, my Celtic druids have 120 DPS with the buff, soooo
     
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    This is not the case at all.

    Celtic Druids baseline dps in quest - 15.

    With the Cyprus staff equiped - 24 dps.
     
    #13 frogs.poison, Dec 1, 2021 at 1:45 PM
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    Hmm, strange, Ill have to look at that because I have up to 60 DPS with my current gear equipped, and more with high viziers...
     
    #14 Mortal Engine, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    This is the stats with ONLY the staff being a modifier - Not counting the tech upgrades (Grove and Armory) nor any other pieces o gear (As you said with Viziers). 60 DPS is pretty much in-line with a Time-Worn Wololo staff along with all upgrades, but no Vizier.

    120 DPS would be kinda temporary - It requires both the 15% damage buff as well as the Druid's healing capabilities. Personally I think that pure DPS druids is just a meme - They aren't doing anywhere near what Woads can dish out, and they are quite a bit squishier then Woads when going for pure damage (Akin to how max HP woads are a meme, since you basically halve their gargantuan damage output, but don't exactly double their already small HP pool)

    It's mainly to show that Wololoo is quite mistaken, since it seems that a number of posters immediately took his word as gospel - Staves DO modify Druid damage output.

    It was very easy to test with the Winter Survival quest, as you have numerous druids right off the start.
     
    #15 frogs.poison, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:24 AM
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    The post was 2.5 years old. Lots of bug fixes happened since then.
     
    #16 purpleganja, Dec 2, 2021 at 6:26 PM
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    I completely didn't notice it was necrod.
     
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