PLEASE Return LOS Items!

Your argument that there is no benefit to nerfing line of sight items seems pretty persuasive to me. I haven't heard anyone argue that the PvE quests are too easy with those items (though I assume that is something some would argue). Your argument that they were removed by MS to incentivize players buying empire consumables is interesting, though I am not sure that was the case. (I am not sure it was not the case either. I just don't see a ton of evidence proving it.)

But your argument that one player having LoS items is somehow gives another player a disadvantage seems misplaced. Regardless of what items some other player has, that gear does not make a legendary quest is any harder or easier for me. The competition in PvE is against the AI, not against other players.

 

Andy,

I have to agree with FullSized on this one. Before I state why, thank you for giving us a great game back again. The game seems to be running smoother now than I can remember way back then when MS had it going. You guys have changed a lot of stuff. New quests, difficulty has been tweaked, empire store has a ton more stuff to buy with points. The consumables glitches and cheats has been fixed. There is a lot that you guys have done right by us as the gaming community is concerned Andy. Kudos to that. But was it really necessary to nerf LoS? For what reason? Maybe if we knew why, then we can understand or argue the point better. If it was due to the damage that was huge so the whole arrow or bow or whatever was removed, then maybe just nerf the damage slightly no?

Ok so here are my 2cents.

Prior to MS taking the game away I had all cities to lvl 40 with every possible gear piece that gave me LoS boosts. It helped a ton to move through the map at ease because you could see exactly what was ahead. Now I struggle because my Ballistas cannot shoot at their potential because they just simply cannot see far enough. I mean I got owned from the dark by ballistas being out of my los. All I saw were projectiles coming. Also early lvls do not really have decent range items tbh. Only a hand full of items that are sold in some stores and that is about it. At lvl 40 there are more to choose from apart from the great ones that was removed.

Some will argue that you will learn the map so you will know where everything is. Usually those arguments are by the same players having got the LoS items and are using them already. To those I would like to say there are some of us albeit not many by the sounds of it, that actually do not have tens of hours a day to spend on here to learn some map that you in anyway can only play every 7 days. For those of us that has time limits due to work, families etc, it would be a huge help to be able to be part of the possible pool to get the said items that boosts LoS. That being said, Ai can through some coding become very difficult to foresee as things like "AI Change" or "Different Spawn Locations" could be implemented then those with LoS bonus items sure as can be will have a huge advantage to having a fairer game than those of us without LoS items, and then I wonder what those that said learn the map will say?

I mean as far as I know, the LoS items cannot be used in pvp? Maybe I am wrong I don't know, but I am not a PvPer so I only play PvE. So if it is not used in pvp then I simply do not understand why we also cannot get our hands on these items. It is LoS, not huge bazooka like damage increase that made it break the game.

Also, lastly, I just want to add that not every player is great at this game. Not every player can solo Legendary maps and get the bonus rewards, and then there are some that also cannot even manage to last 5minutes in legendary maps solo. Hell, I know players that cannot even manage lvl 4 missions because they just are not good, but they love this game.

They play this game to spend time with their friends and family that play this game. Hell even little kids play this game. Yes, skill does have a huge role in it, but so does equipment. Some players takes a very long time before they grasp what they need to do exactly. Some are totally bloody clueless. Some are huge boss players that runs through maps like they running from their mother in law who is chasing them with a shotgun. I just think that we should consider all players and how it affects the ones left outside the circle too. Those that has the LoS items, they really do not give two hoots about anyone that does not have it.

If those that have the LoS items that does not drop anymore, get angry because you want to implement it for everyone then maybe you should start checking their coin transfers and transactions. I bet you will probably find some coin sellers in those bundles of players, and by you implementing it again, they will know their money making abilities will slow down a lot because players will have the chance of (A) getting the same items that they have been selling for hundreds of K a piece, and (B) Their selling of gold for real money will take a dive because people will be able to buy the items from more than just a small few people.

Me for one, I play this game to have fun. If I get killed over and over because of Ai in the dark then the fun aspect goes right out the window. I am all for a challenge, so please do not think I want it easy because i don't. I just think it is fair to have the same items available for pve for every player that plays this here wonderful game that you guys have brought back to life.

Cheers

Blind

 

I had nothing to do with bringing the game back, but I am sure @Luciano, @Ryddag, @cad39again, @Kevsoft and the others appreciate our sincere thanks. (They made me a mod only recently, and I have nothing yet to show for it. haha)

For the record, I tend to agree that LoS items should be returned. I haven't given it tons of thought, though. It's not a huge concern of mine, and I understand there are two sides to the story. I don't think I have ever had much LoS gear, even back in the day. But I can see how having it and then not being able to have it would feel really frustrating.

 

Yes, when they started there were LoS items in game. Only some, select few included got these drops before it was removed from gear. Some players still have the bows and arrows that gives really decent LoS. Like the heavily LoS orientated Arduinnas bow, that gives huge LoS, range and good damage. Now, they only have range and ok damage. Unlike the poor LoS that gallic arrows gives. With Xanthe on, the arrows and hand carved wall brace as well as decent lookout, they light up over 80% of the map in age 4 without even leaving their base with 1 fort. Now to me, i think it is totally unfair that some got this and 98% give or take of the rest of us do not.

Every person has their own right to say whether or not they think LoS is OP or not, but me for one have had enough of getting killed by unseen enemies in the dark. Trust me, it happens. Gastras LoS now does not allow you to see a ballista till it kills half your army. I dare not say anything about my woad raiders LoS. So the only way to deal with this is to have one big ass long row of forts built as you go up the map. Not only is it time consuming, but those of us that try really hard to improve our game play to the extend to be able to solo a legendary at least just about always misses the time mark for the early completion. Why would anyone think that decent LoS is cheating? It is not. Every person plays their own way. We already got to deal with having to often change advisors for different maps, is it really that hard to allow us the benefit of LoS like some others have?