Babylon Oxcarts suggestion...

To me the Ox-carts make Babylon MUCH more boring to play due to them being created in TC, so I'd suggest for the sake of making them more smooth and fun to play one of this suggestions/changes:

1) Make Ox-carts possible to build with a villager in open terrain as a regular Storyhouse, with the difference that the finished product is a movable Ox-cart. It can still be manufactured in TC also.

2) Give Babylon a stationary storehouse alternative also, I don't care if it's twice the price. Ox-carts could still be made as usual, this would just be an alternative.

Babylon is a nice civ, Ox-carts is a good idea, but the creation in TC just brings the whole civ down to "I almost never play them" for me.

 

My suggestion was in no case to remove the Ox-cart, seems both you who typed thought so? Read again, in both suggestions I made the Ox-cart stays, in the second suggestion it got an addition.

The issue I have with them isn't how they work when they are made - but how they are made. My first suggestion is that it should be able to build with a villager similar to a storehouse is built, but that the finished product would be a movable Ox-cart.

 

Well, if you understood what I meant you wouldn't typed my suggestion was to "remove one of it's features", since no feature was to be removed in my suggestions, functions/stuff was to be added, nothing removed. You also talked as if I wanted the Ox-carts stationary wich never was something I said or meant - litterary the opposite was said. Also your "problem solved" was the opposite since my issue was about wanting to be able to build them without using the TC, so to delete one to use TC to build a new would just cause the "problem" instead of solving it.

What you talk about could be solved with longer build-times and/or higher price wich could make a nerf more than a buff eco-wise (just gain some smoothness to the game imo). The villager(s) occupied with building is also something that "cost" you something as well as the training time in TC does - it's not like they can build and gather resourses at same time. So balance can be kept with no problem. My suggestion was nothing about buffing Babylonians.

 

Yes, I agree with what you say in general terms, however I don't think we would brake Babylon if villagers in free terrain could build Ox-carts, forget suggestion 2 with storehouse, was just an option. If you make Ox-carts build in free terrain by villagers go much slower or if i.e the main TC get paused while building you could very easy compensate for this feature. They still would be the only civ with a mobile storehouse, so it's not about changing that part.

Depending on how you balance it you can even make it nerfed - for me it's just a matter of how smooth they are to play; as I've said I really don't like to have to build them in TC

 

1) Egypts starts with a priest of Ra, and get same build speed on vills (at least with my standard gear).
2) I've addressed sollutions for balancing in several possible ways.
*Make build of Ox-cart by villager slower
** Pause main TC build while building Ox-cart with villager
*** Make Ox-carts built by villager more expensive

Since early comments here I've added this suggestions, and more - and I've made clear that in no way is this suggestion meant to boost Babylon in any way, for me it's just about how smooth they are to play - and also fine if using this feature (if added) they would be somewhat nerfed (only for them who use it).