2023 Build Orders Thread - 0.8 Gather Rate Patches

Hey all,

Kire and others have been calling for updated build order guide videos now that the old ones are no longer really fitting as they're based around the old 1.0 res/sec gather rates.

Build - Ideal civs for it
Spearman First - As 200 Wood Start Civs
Spearman First - As 150 Wood Start Civs (Norse, Roman)
Town Centre First - As All Civs
The Greedy Dock Build - As All Civs
The Safer Dock Build - As All Civs

 

Long Age II - As Norse, Babylonian, Roman or Celt Melee
Warship First On Coastal/Treasure Island - As All Civs
1 Town Centre & Proxy On Water Maps - As Roman, Norse, Greek
2 Town Centre & Proxy On Water Maps - As Celt, Greek, Norse
3 Town Centre & Ram Push - As Greek, Egyptian, Persian, Babylonian, Roman
Stables Before 2nd Town Center - As Persian, Norse, Babylonian
Semi Fast 3TC 2 Rax Champion Axes - As Egyptian versus Egypt, Norse, Celts, Roman
Egypt 2 TC 2 Stables - As Egyptian versus Greek, Norse (if it's a big map), Persia, Babylonian

 

With the town center cost reduction from 400w/400s to 300w/300s, the viability and timings of many of these builds has changed. I will make new videos to replace most of these, and I recommend against playing aggressively off 1 town centre unless there is a future nerf to the second town center timing.

However 2TC proxy play still works

To do list (after replacing necessary old vids):
Roman 1TC 2x Castellum+Praetorium Push
Egyptian fast 3TC fortress (TC, 1 production building, defensive towers, TC, fort)
Persian fast 3TC immortals (1 production building and towers)
Wardog opening (water maps)
1TC Proxy (no dock)
2TC Proxy (no dock)
Madlib's Norse fortress in enemy base
Greek defend til gastra/ballista/hippi
Greek delayed range til age 3 (may be combined with above)
Grungy's Roman defend til mass scorpio
Babylonian 4 gardens first opening
Persian aid tent timings
Babylonian fast champion lancer
No cavalry babylonian
Age 3 melee Norse
Age 3 ranged Norse
Woad hit and run strat
balanced woad-bowman-horseman
Mass slinger/skirmisher strats
Tower rushing on Arabia
Age 4 stuff (unexplored territory for Ardy)