what is the collection rate of delian hammer

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  1. kilbert

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    what is the collection rate of delian hammer 10 or 11?
     
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    how much resource does this collect without upgrade, 10 or 11?
     
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    11. You need to get over 20% bonus collection to get 12 collection, and over 30% to get 13 collection.
     
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    Hi, +10 and +11 is the carry capacity, i don't think it is linked to hammer but maybe i'm wrong...
     
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    with delian it says +11 carry capacity, actually it is slightly better than that but I wouldnt worry about it that much, let's just say you get better carry capacity with better tools
     
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    Delian Archon's Hammer has the highest possible gathering rates out of ALL tools, outside of Miners True Pick of Prospecting, which gives up to 23%

    Due to how the gathering rates work, the max you can without further tech or advisors is 12 carry capacity in either Gold (If you have True Pick of Prospecting), or Food or Wood (depending on if you get either Food or Wood gathering tunic for your workers).

    It is not possible to get over 12 baseline gathering without advisors.

    With that said, keep in mind that Delian Archon's Hammer only has a mere 1.5% better gathering rate then even the worst Hammer of Kaveh, in exchange for nearly 10% worst building speed. And the best Hammer of Kaveh has only .5% worst gathering then Delian Archon's Hammer, but 11.3% faster building.

    Overall, do not buy Delian Archon's Hammer. Buy Divine Hammer of Construction instead.
     
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    DHoC>Kaveh>Delian=BHoC seems to be pretty much the metric to go by for rating BiS craftsmen hammers

    Build speed is worth more as a stat than gather rate, given the % ranges we see on items atm. You can say that Romans with their engineers, and Norse (when played by advanced players) with their infantry building can benefit more from the gather speed, but the gains in gather time (because you're not spending it on build time) with the other 5 civs' villagers completely dwarfs the incremental gains in gather speeds.
     
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    I would add one more reason to why build speed is better: Caravans
     
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